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Very good description of what I hope is Trump's positioning. Whatever else one might say about him, Trump IS a master negotiator. Such positioning vis-a-vis the Republicans, the anti-war voters, and Israel is very delicate and yet necessary. Ultimately Trump's power and his success will come from adhering to moral rectitude and the best interests of the U.S. I think and hope he knows this and will hold the course he seems to have taken.

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I can understand and empathize with your response emotionally. However, the current circumstances are different than they were with Hitler. There is no universal, uniform, legal response to such monstrous behavior. Aside from that there has been no consensus that the punitive response to Germany was on balance constructive in retrospect, so how can that be applied without further consideration to Israel, now?

What I think can be said is that "two wrongs do not make a right." God says: "Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord." (Romans 12:19)

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Nazi free zone.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Good thing the House is out of pocket for a month.

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Francisco d’Anconia's avatar

God I hope you’re right Mark. Trump is a chameleon for sure, if he ends up on the side of peace it will truly cement his legacy. If he doesn’t it will be the end of much that we hold dear.

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The Man’s Child's avatar

Genocidal war criminal? Shameless liar?

You seem to be blinded by a lot of trendy pressure.

Pity.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

So, in your world the truth is blinded by trendy pressure? How droll your world must be.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

LOL!

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Ben Carson talked for six minutes with Tucker Carlson in a video that dropped today about why the black community loves Trump. I haven't listened to it, but the whole thing sounds good. https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2024/07/25/tucker-carlson-interviews-dr-ben-carson/

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

Prediction: Trump is not going to go down the rabbit hole with Israel…thus why they are trying to pre-empt him. Israeli leadership has to play this card all the way to the end, they picked a path they cannot get off of. It will leave them with few choices if they want to exist as a state.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Yeah, the most extreme of the extreme are talking up Trump as the guy who will empower Israel's war on the Middle East. For example, Ben Gvir was making that claim just yesterday.

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Jeff Martineau's avatar

That is understandable given what they think they know about his family and jewish connections…also makes sense that those MUST say that publicly, television, hoping it will stick…Trump also knows that he will be in the power position on this, though he won’t make it look like he is against Israel…if he is about the deal, then Israel won’t be able to wait him out…short of another kinetic assassination…

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Trump is smarter than that.

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Genrikh Yagoda

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dissonant1's avatar

Is it Trump's party? Or is it Israel's party?

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I certainly hope you are right. Right now Trump is the only one who might be in position to do so and who appears to be willing to even try. It is going to be a narrow path to make it happen, though, especially given the desires of the current government in Israel. It calls for prayer.

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Imagine, a leader leading!

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