Lots of rumours floating around. Some even saying that Trump laid a trap. Who knows? However, I feel that the raid was a Crossing the Rubicon moment for America. The Dems and the DS are pure evil and will do anything to anyone to keep power in Nov and in 2024. And there is virtually no opposition. Witness the overwhelming outrage from the GOP at this Gestapo like incident? Yeah, me neither.
For Andy’s theory to be true, Garland would have to have in effect obtained a “general warrant,” which are prohibited by Amendment IV.
IANAL, but for the lawyers in the group, wouldn’t the exclusionary rule mean that even if Wray’s thugs found a signed, notarized letter at Mar-A-Lago saying, “I know I lost but plan to start a riot, signed Donald J Trump,” they’d have to squash it because it wasn’t part of the search warrant application?
I heard him talking today, and while I understand his point I found it distasteful. The problem for the FBI is that, while you can get away with that kind of sharp practice in everyday cases, it's not as easy in high stakes cases involving the POTUS where there's a jury involved--the public. You may win on the law, but that won't matter if you lose in the court of public opinion. Just by their actions they're showing that they regard at least half of the country as their enemies.
If your search includes Melania's entire wardrobe based on thinking the Donald would "stash" something there then it must be something pretty specific. Something that could possibly blend into a wardrobe closet / clothing. Kinda creepy but definitely not National Archives related.
If so, simply want to say I've admired your writings, musings for years, shipmate. I'm fairly certain we've never met at any of the usual places, although our service years did overlap.
Dyer confirms my feeling of impending doom. Thankful that she is still blogging. Highlights really how reckless this action was, and in my mind, cannot just be for the 2024 election. Are these events just more unintended consequences, or is there something so big behind it that doj is willing to risk 40+ years of diplomacy?
I speculate that Trump has some FBI files, created long before he ran for President, proving that the FBI was investigating him for colluding with Russian Intelligences since 2012. Such documents would prove that FBI Director James Comey lied to Trump and also to the public when Comey denied the existence of such an investigation.
I intend to write a blog article about my speculation.
In the meantime, I point out a blog article that I published on June 17, speculating that Trump decided to fire Comey in early May 2017 because Trump had received such documents secretly from an FBI official.
Was President Trump Told About the FBI Investigation of Him?
Let me posit something else. Say Biden pardons Trump before charges are brought. Would moderate unaligned voters suddenly say that Biden is reasonable? That may be his only hope, and Trump can't go to court to prove the entire raid was a lie from the gitgo. Just a thought.
Because if you are pardoned, you can't go into court to challenge the charges. But you are stuck with a stigma that you might have done something, even though you were never convicted. But I also think this is too high level of thinking for Biden or his crew of criminals to come up with it.
Robert Barnes suggests that they actually ARE looking for documents in Trump’s possession, but that these are documents that Trump kept as insurance against Deep State malfeasance. In other words, he’s got dirt on all the right people and institutions and they are scared witless he will deploy it.
Please understand I have no inside information and my powers of analysis are probably inferior to that of most of you, but I want to propose another idea for your consideration. I have written screenplays , so you may take this as in that light.
In the days after the 2020 election many things came up on the internet, and someone even suggested that Trump was preparing the biggest 'tiger trap' in history. There were indications that American super-spies working for him had gathered all the real-time data on what went on the night of the election. Does anyone remember crazy stories about Frankfurt and an armed confrontation?
When a company, for example, Enron, goes bust first minor infractions are done to buy time until things get better. Other illegalities follow, until major crimes are committed if only to cover up previous measures taken. In for a penny, in for a pound. Imagine Trump having a dossier, solid evidence that could indict very powerful people. (I've heard Giuliani has something similar. What ever happened as a follow-up to the raid they pulled on him?). Apparently the FBI seized everything and anything, which would include things not specific to the charges in the warrant. A few documents that shouldn't be in his possession wouldn't justify such a scandalous raid, and as you mention creating legal impediments to prevent him from having any future wouldn't work. Any incriminating evidence that might exist would surely be in multiple copies, and not only on one site, but having the information would be useful. In any case the escalation this causes is unimportant, because this has become a fight to the death.
Any confrontation would of course shake Washington to its very foundations. The alternative is we are no longer a country of, by and for the people. Are the Ruling Class onfident they can enforce their will?
This is just one more example of the left’s incapacity to feel shame or embarrassment. I find myself so disgusted by the whole raid that I am not interested in reading or hearing about it. I’m sure those still suffering from TDS and getting their news from CNN are lapping it up but is anyone else cheering on these antics or paying attention? It’s so obviously a political witch hunt. Meanwhile, the dementia patient is having ice cream and falling over on his bicycle.
Lots of rumours floating around. Some even saying that Trump laid a trap. Who knows? However, I feel that the raid was a Crossing the Rubicon moment for America. The Dems and the DS are pure evil and will do anything to anyone to keep power in Nov and in 2024. And there is virtually no opposition. Witness the overwhelming outrage from the GOP at this Gestapo like incident? Yeah, me neither.
For Andy’s theory to be true, Garland would have to have in effect obtained a “general warrant,” which are prohibited by Amendment IV.
IANAL, but for the lawyers in the group, wouldn’t the exclusionary rule mean that even if Wray’s thugs found a signed, notarized letter at Mar-A-Lago saying, “I know I lost but plan to start a riot, signed Donald J Trump,” they’d have to squash it because it wasn’t part of the search warrant application?
I heard him talking today, and while I understand his point I found it distasteful. The problem for the FBI is that, while you can get away with that kind of sharp practice in everyday cases, it's not as easy in high stakes cases involving the POTUS where there's a jury involved--the public. You may win on the law, but that won't matter if you lose in the court of public opinion. Just by their actions they're showing that they regard at least half of the country as their enemies.
If your search includes Melania's entire wardrobe based on thinking the Donald would "stash" something there then it must be something pretty specific. Something that could possibly blend into a wardrobe closet / clothing. Kinda creepy but definitely not National Archives related.
Ever hear of Mike Podhorzer? Read this...https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/
The raid is because every other attempt to Get Trump has not worked.
Current Attempts:
- Jan 6 committee
- Trump irs tax returns
- Censoring / excommunicating from social media
- NY AG investigation
- GA Investigation
And his candidates keep on winning primaries.
Yep. And to send a very strong message to any patriot who wants to try and fight the DS.
Makes sense to me.
FBI. must be demolished
FBI criminally fabricated warrants for RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA
Remember Merrick Garland could've been a Supreme Court Justice! Scary thought.
And guess who stopped him? Trump. Garland looks like death warmed up. You can almost see the evil oozing out of him.
McCarthy is a believer that Big Government is good and does no harm while pinching his nose at the mere sight of an outsider like DJT.
Some process questions about the raid and some immediate implications for our relationships with Russia, China, and Iran:
https://theoptimisticconservative.wordpress.com/2022/08/09/world-crisis-raiders-of-the-lost-files/#more-6910
Any thoughts/observations welcome.
dissonant1,
are you JE?
If so, simply want to say I've admired your writings, musings for years, shipmate. I'm fairly certain we've never met at any of the usual places, although our service years did overlap.
From one 1630 to another,
Take good care.
Sandy, no I am not her. I'm sure she would enjoy hearing from you - you can leave comments at her blog if you so desire.
Dyer confirms my feeling of impending doom. Thankful that she is still blogging. Highlights really how reckless this action was, and in my mind, cannot just be for the 2024 election. Are these events just more unintended consequences, or is there something so big behind it that doj is willing to risk 40+ years of diplomacy?
I'll have to check her out this morning.
Little Marco was actually quite good on this, speaking with Hannity.
Going directly after Trump like that was the Franz Ferdinand moment in the life of America's constitutional republic.
A grudging +1.
I speculate that Trump has some FBI files, created long before he ran for President, proving that the FBI was investigating him for colluding with Russian Intelligences since 2012. Such documents would prove that FBI Director James Comey lied to Trump and also to the public when Comey denied the existence of such an investigation.
I intend to write a blog article about my speculation.
In the meantime, I point out a blog article that I published on June 17, speculating that Trump decided to fire Comey in early May 2017 because Trump had received such documents secretly from an FBI official.
Was President Trump Told About the FBI Investigation of Him?
http://people-who-did-not-see.blogspot.com/2022/06/was-president-trump-told-about-fbi.html
Let me posit something else. Say Biden pardons Trump before charges are brought. Would moderate unaligned voters suddenly say that Biden is reasonable? That may be his only hope, and Trump can't go to court to prove the entire raid was a lie from the gitgo. Just a thought.
That would be the smart political move,
But that’s not the Lefts Way.
They need Trump to be destroyed, as Rome destroyed Carthage to never be rebuilt.
Carthāgō dēlenda est
Because if you are pardoned, you can't go into court to challenge the charges. But you are stuck with a stigma that you might have done something, even though you were never convicted. But I also think this is too high level of thinking for Biden or his crew of criminals to come up with it.
Good to see some dispassionate analysis from McCarthy. He's a certified NeverTrumper.
Robert Barnes suggests that they actually ARE looking for documents in Trump’s possession, but that these are documents that Trump kept as insurance against Deep State malfeasance. In other words, he’s got dirt on all the right people and institutions and they are scared witless he will deploy it.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/WM_qVQdAjyo/
Problem is that Trump can reveal what he wants, but it doesn't matter. The MSM won't cover it, and most Americans will never see it.
Emerald Robinson’s take is the inability to steal Az recent elections panicked the Left.
https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/welcome-to-the-banana-republic-of
Please understand I have no inside information and my powers of analysis are probably inferior to that of most of you, but I want to propose another idea for your consideration. I have written screenplays , so you may take this as in that light.
In the days after the 2020 election many things came up on the internet, and someone even suggested that Trump was preparing the biggest 'tiger trap' in history. There were indications that American super-spies working for him had gathered all the real-time data on what went on the night of the election. Does anyone remember crazy stories about Frankfurt and an armed confrontation?
When a company, for example, Enron, goes bust first minor infractions are done to buy time until things get better. Other illegalities follow, until major crimes are committed if only to cover up previous measures taken. In for a penny, in for a pound. Imagine Trump having a dossier, solid evidence that could indict very powerful people. (I've heard Giuliani has something similar. What ever happened as a follow-up to the raid they pulled on him?). Apparently the FBI seized everything and anything, which would include things not specific to the charges in the warrant. A few documents that shouldn't be in his possession wouldn't justify such a scandalous raid, and as you mention creating legal impediments to prevent him from having any future wouldn't work. Any incriminating evidence that might exist would surely be in multiple copies, and not only on one site, but having the information would be useful. In any case the escalation this causes is unimportant, because this has become a fight to the death.
Any confrontation would of course shake Washington to its very foundations. The alternative is we are no longer a country of, by and for the people. Are the Ruling Class onfident they can enforce their will?
Think "fishing trip" is in the affidavit?
Yep. And "planting season" too.
Fishing expedition with a wide net. Wide nets have lots of holes in them (or should, legally, anyway). But hey who cares what is legal or not anymore?
A good start would be to elect a MAGA Congress in November. Who knows, maybe we can get a change of President before 2024.
This is just one more example of the left’s incapacity to feel shame or embarrassment. I find myself so disgusted by the whole raid that I am not interested in reading or hearing about it. I’m sure those still suffering from TDS and getting their news from CNN are lapping it up but is anyone else cheering on these antics or paying attention? It’s so obviously a political witch hunt. Meanwhile, the dementia patient is having ice cream and falling over on his bicycle.