“If the state can no longer appeal to the old moral principles that belong to the Christian tradition, it will be forced to create a new official faith and new moral principles which will be binding on its citizens.”
Israel, and its population, are an instrument of the Money Power to control Middle Eastern oil and gas. It's never been anything else. Trump knows that. Netanyahu knows that. You know that. I know that.
My “naive” guess is it’s more about Israeli politics.
I know Israel has been sold in the past as an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East for US influence.
I wonder how the “Money Powers” are related to internal Israeli politics. My guess is they have strong relations as an arm of Israeli influence in the West.
Random thought - I believe Israel is one of the most vaxed nations on earth. One of the jabs side effects is a decrease in fertility. What impact will this have on Israel? My guess too soon to tell.
Another random thought - Yes, Trump could stop arms deliveries to Israel, but at what political cost. My guess is he judges the political cost too high. He’s letting Netanyahu’s dig himself deeper and deeper into this mess. All the Trump announcements on resettlement of the Gaza’s is just chaff and a distraction from Trumps lack of action on the Gaza tar baby.
Agree, Ray-SoCa, it's about far more than control of oil-gas.
Also agree that "blame it on Bibi' = a scapegoat, or limited hang-out.
I believe the core of the issue is Jewish identity.
If/when the Bibi-Israel-Jewish Nationalism epi-phenomenon finally implodes, also shattered will be the entire patched-together 'identity' of Christianity, Judeo-Christianity, Christian zionism, Darbyism, Roman Catholicism, and many of the other distortions of the movement that emerged in reaction to the Graeco-Roman empire.
Most of the readers here know that to, Richard. What seemingly has become difficult to overcome is the Christian Zionists who make up a significant part of Trump's MAGA base as do the over 65 crowd who are steeped in Jewish myth's and holocaustianity of eternal victimhood. A people incapable of defending themselves so they absolutely need government for protection and their money buys legal loopholes so they can attack anyone who would dispute or criticize their agenda. Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is tainting all of America and so many are blind to this fact. The hostility among the right toward Israel dissenters is beyond the pale. They act in the same way as far left maniacs by smearing anyone who disagrees with Israel's actions leading to accusations of Jew hate and antisemitism being thrown around like so much confetti at a ticker tape parade..
I agree with you, Cosmo, about the Christian Zionists who are cheerleaders to 'sacred' Israel and 'perfect' Trump. When a person states the truth about Israel's genocide of Gaza, or Trump sending 2,000-lb. bombs to Israel to 'get'er done!'...the CZs become livid, and go into defend and attack mode. They are quick to name-call.
A place where this plays out is The Gateway Pundit. The readers AND the story writers are of the worship Israel and Trump--defend and attack mindset.
Cosmo, when you wrote that the over 65 crowd, who make up a significant part of Trump's MAGA base and are "steeped in Jewish myth's and holocaustianity of eternal victimhood"...do you mean that on the whole, people who are over 65 believe this way?
Thanks for your reply and comment, adoozy. There are many other sites where the same type of writers and readers are all in accord and pro-Israel and they are completely impervious to fact based counter arguments. Breitbart, Powerline Blog, Epoch News, American greatness, etc.
No, not at all and for me to seem to imply that it is was my mistake. I, like so many, fall into using a broad brush in our statements and that is wrong. Many of the older generation who might have been very young during the war or boomers are more prone to the many stories surrounding the war and the holocaust. We've been in undated with the victors version of history and we in American can be the most susceptible. Thanks for catching that and asking me to explain.
Thank you for your gracious reply to my question about "seasoned citizens"--as Rush Limbaugh used to call the over 65 set.
People over 65 grew up listening to news on the radio and on 3 TV stations, and most folks got the news from 1-2 daily newspapers. Easy for mass media to steer folks into (scripted) viewpoints.
Thankfully, with the Internet, you and I can read news relayed from many independent journalists, and we can sift out truths.
And then we can be town criers to old and young alike!
“If the state can no longer appeal to the old moral principles that belong to the Christian tradition, it will be forced to create a new official faith and new moral principles which will be binding on its citizens.”
Christopher Dawson
DEI, climate change, etc.
There are your new faith and moral principles.
Israel, and its population, are an instrument of the Money Power to control Middle Eastern oil and gas. It's never been anything else. Trump knows that. Netanyahu knows that. You know that. I know that.
I’m not sure about control being the goal.
My “naive” guess is it’s more about Israeli politics.
I know Israel has been sold in the past as an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the Middle East for US influence.
I wonder how the “Money Powers” are related to internal Israeli politics. My guess is they have strong relations as an arm of Israeli influence in the West.
Random thought - I believe Israel is one of the most vaxed nations on earth. One of the jabs side effects is a decrease in fertility. What impact will this have on Israel? My guess too soon to tell.
Another random thought - Yes, Trump could stop arms deliveries to Israel, but at what political cost. My guess is he judges the political cost too high. He’s letting Netanyahu’s dig himself deeper and deeper into this mess. All the Trump announcements on resettlement of the Gaza’s is just chaff and a distraction from Trumps lack of action on the Gaza tar baby.
Agree, Ray-SoCa, it's about far more than control of oil-gas.
Also agree that "blame it on Bibi' = a scapegoat, or limited hang-out.
I believe the core of the issue is Jewish identity.
If/when the Bibi-Israel-Jewish Nationalism epi-phenomenon finally implodes, also shattered will be the entire patched-together 'identity' of Christianity, Judeo-Christianity, Christian zionism, Darbyism, Roman Catholicism, and many of the other distortions of the movement that emerged in reaction to the Graeco-Roman empire.
Most of the readers here know that to, Richard. What seemingly has become difficult to overcome is the Christian Zionists who make up a significant part of Trump's MAGA base as do the over 65 crowd who are steeped in Jewish myth's and holocaustianity of eternal victimhood. A people incapable of defending themselves so they absolutely need government for protection and their money buys legal loopholes so they can attack anyone who would dispute or criticize their agenda. Israel's ethnic cleansing of Palestinians is tainting all of America and so many are blind to this fact. The hostility among the right toward Israel dissenters is beyond the pale. They act in the same way as far left maniacs by smearing anyone who disagrees with Israel's actions leading to accusations of Jew hate and antisemitism being thrown around like so much confetti at a ticker tape parade..
I agree with you, Cosmo, about the Christian Zionists who are cheerleaders to 'sacred' Israel and 'perfect' Trump. When a person states the truth about Israel's genocide of Gaza, or Trump sending 2,000-lb. bombs to Israel to 'get'er done!'...the CZs become livid, and go into defend and attack mode. They are quick to name-call.
A place where this plays out is The Gateway Pundit. The readers AND the story writers are of the worship Israel and Trump--defend and attack mindset.
Cosmo, when you wrote that the over 65 crowd, who make up a significant part of Trump's MAGA base and are "steeped in Jewish myth's and holocaustianity of eternal victimhood"...do you mean that on the whole, people who are over 65 believe this way?
Thanks for your reply and comment, adoozy. There are many other sites where the same type of writers and readers are all in accord and pro-Israel and they are completely impervious to fact based counter arguments. Breitbart, Powerline Blog, Epoch News, American greatness, etc.
No, not at all and for me to seem to imply that it is was my mistake. I, like so many, fall into using a broad brush in our statements and that is wrong. Many of the older generation who might have been very young during the war or boomers are more prone to the many stories surrounding the war and the holocaust. We've been in undated with the victors version of history and we in American can be the most susceptible. Thanks for catching that and asking me to explain.
Thank you for your gracious reply to my question about "seasoned citizens"--as Rush Limbaugh used to call the over 65 set.
People over 65 grew up listening to news on the radio and on 3 TV stations, and most folks got the news from 1-2 daily newspapers. Easy for mass media to steer folks into (scripted) viewpoints.
Thankfully, with the Internet, you and I can read news relayed from many independent journalists, and we can sift out truths.
And then we can be town criers to old and young alike!