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SMH's avatar

After watching these clowns for so long, you finally just run out of adjectives to describe their antics and their incompetence. Apparently they just don’t have a keen grasp of the obvious.

If I’m certain of anything at this point, I am 100% certain that Vladimir Putin is going to rub their collective Neocon noses in this fiasco and he most definitely will NOT let

them avoid the consequences of their folly.

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Russia will not let Zhou and EU wiggle off the hook with a ceasefire at this point.

1) No NATO Ever (or as long as NATO is around)

2) No giveback of land

3) All sanctions ended and $$$ returned

4) Biden and EU at the table and parties to any agreement.

5) Ukraine regime change and Nazi's addressed

6) UN Security Council ratification of settlement.

Putin will position for an unconditional surrender. Putin/Russia will have necessary leverage when they press the battle in the spring (to cause Zhou maximum election damage). 1) capture Kharkiv and Odessa, 2) move on Kiev from the north and east, and 3) move to the Dnipro River. Ukraine army will surrender/collapse.

Sad state of affairs for US internationally, combined with Afgan withdrawl debacle, de-dolarization, Mideast humiliation and Gaza handcuffs. Quite a record for Biden, Sullivan, Nuland and Blinken (and their boss Obama)

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