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Brad Crawford's avatar

"What these people are going to learn over the next months is that the SCOTUS has actually given them what they preferred—by overturning Roe."

That to me has always seemed key. As hard as the obscurantists try to keep people convinced that overturning Roe v Wade makes abortion illegal, once the states start enacting their abortion policies, everyone everywhere is eventually going to see the reality. These policies as a whole will appear reasonable to them, and that will be enough to get most of their support. So look for support of Dobbs to grow over the months and years for sure.

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If the Republicans came out in support of an 8 or 10 week ban with exceptions for age (14 and younger), mother’s physical health, and allowing induced delivery or c-section at any point for fatal fetal abnormality, they would win this issue over the long term, and save a lot of small humans from being burned alive in saline or ripped apart limb by limb. It would be the long play. They aren’t good enough politically to make it.

Like many Americans, I don’t think bodily autonomy should end at puberty for girls, and I certainly wouldn’t give a rapist’s sperm more rights to reproduction than the girl or woman who got rapped. I also acknowledge a fetus is a stage of human development, and every successful abortion ends an innocent human life. I chose bodily autonomy, but it doesn’t take 3 or more months to assert bodily autonomy. Women and girls are not so hapless and incompetent they need 9 months to decide if they want to kill their own child.

Abortion is not near the top of my list of priorities in voting, and I have come to believe through Covid disasters Democrats position is based on the reality that they simply hate small humans. Dems certainly don’t give a crap about bodily autonomy or Women’s rights. If abortion ever does become a top issue for me, I’ll vote for whichever party lands nearest to an elective ban passed 8 weeks.

I made the mistake of voting for mostly Dems for the first 15 years I could vote, thanks to lots of indoctrination in undergrad and grad school, which is a huge regret I have as a mom now. I don’t intend to make the same mistake again. I am for early choice, but I am NOT for the Dem policies of murdering and destroying little humans just for the hell of it. That puts my position FAR closer to Republicans these days than Democrats. That’s the case for so many issues.

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