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Bruce-PNW's avatar

Apropos of our zeitgeist, I suggest the anti-anthem for the times. Creedence Clear Water Revival's "Fortunate Son".

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Brad Crawford's avatar

As you say, it sounds as plausible a theory as any. Others suggest* the play may be to bury the Trump camp in discovery until past the election, or at least not allow the case to be concluded before then - just to keep the clouds hanging over Trump's head all the way through. I have zero idea what the actual play is, other than that whatever it is it's guaranteed to make banana republics everywhere look positively Madisonian by comparison.

*For example, here: twitter.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1687651879210356736 and here: twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1687663750625517568

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SMH's avatar

Hey, could someone tell me why pictures of Jack Smith always show him in some kind of rob/gown? Is that some attempt to make him seem regal or distinguished and waaay above us peons? It’s not working.

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ccdirtdawgs's avatar

Thank you, Mark. That Smith's case was the end of McDonnell's political career never seemed like it could be a successful goal with Trump & that's been bugging me. The potential goals from Thompson are more plausible, tho I'm w/you on there not seeming to be much of a "base" to rally against SCOTUS. Of course, there are plenty of examples of the Blob creating their ideal "base(s)" from thin air as required.

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ML's avatar

Not so ironic Mark! The Dersh has spoken:

“You know the worst thing about this indictment, under the terms of this indictment, Jack Smith can be indicted. Let me explain to you why,” Dershowitz said. “The statute says the following, two or more persons conspire to injure and deny somebody the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured him by the constitution. What if a court ultimately rules that Donald Trump had a right under the First Amendment to make his Jan. 6 speech and to do what he did? Then Jack Smith will have conspired to deny him of that right. That’s how serious this is.”

Hope springs eternal.

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OTOH, Bluto has just indulged in another diatribe against DJT, (CNN interview), completely contradicting Dersh’s position and throwing Trump to the Smith wolfpack. He says he’ll “wait and pick his poison.” I thought he already did - very revealing remark - and the poison is Joe Biden.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

What happens to this theory if Trump succeeds in not agreeing to a speedy trial? There are those who think he should drag it out as long as possible

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

The process is the punishment. It diverts Trumps attention, just as the impeachments did. Its goal is to hobble his election campaign. And Smith has already started ratcheting up the intensity with his request for a protective order, due to “Trumps Threat”.

I wonder if Trump is baiting Smith to over react?

Trump has an amazing ability to make the Left and Never Trumpers lose it, ripping the masks of civility, fairness, and competence they wear disguising their true, horrible, biased, angry, incompetent selves.

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Secret Squirrel's avatar

Their biggest downfalls come from overreach. They can’t help themselves and go just that bit too far, and the American people go whoa.

I hope that is what is going on. It helps make sense when seeing Trump go after Smith and the other DA hacks publicly and often. In normal cases, defendants are more cautious.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Perhaps our best hope.

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

I wish Trump would go after prosecutional immunity, it’s not in the constitution…

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Mark Wauck's avatar

Taking on the legal establishment! Yes! A hill to die on, the right thing to do.

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Secret Squirrel's avatar

That’s interesting. It would definitely put a damper on these political witch hunts.

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Bruce-PNW's avatar

Seems as if the blow-back danger to pols could be large: a movement to primary any GOP candidate that doesn't endorse Trump could manifest as a Tea-Party-like popular ground swell. Currently only has small purchase

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

If I remember correctly, Trump has taken out at least one incumbent gop Senator. Taking out an incumbent is unheard of. And a couple others decided not to run. And he has taken out a couple of gop incumbents they voted for his impeachment.

Murkowski only survived due to lots of dirty tricks.

Unfortunately the eGOP is dead set against Maga candidates, and pulls lots of dirty tricks to make sure they even lose the primary, much less the general election.

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AmericanCardigan's avatar

Saw this today. Thought of this. Couple days ago. He’s spot on IMO.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

"destruction of traditional America is the goal"

Substitution of Prog "philosopher kings" (Plato, but really ideologue kings)--in the form of rule by "experts"--for a constitutional republic. This is the slippery slope America has been on for over a century, since the intelligentsia first imbibed Hegelian ideology, the German ideology.

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ccdirtdawgs's avatar

Imo, it's ideology over truth as described in the article Mark linked to yesterday. Sickening how widespread and/or all encompassing this phenomenon.

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Not an Amercian's avatar

Nice one Louis.

So truth is enabled via free will.

Whereas ideology takes away the potential to choose.

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Brad Crawford's avatar

IIRC, Trump's 3 appointees + Roberts dismissed the Texas case pretty much out of hand, as if it had no intrinsic merit and no business being put in front of SCOTUS to begin with. Disgusting. (I don't mention the 3 Dem opinions because they're just programmed robots, so what would be the point?)

If they didn't realize what they were doing, such naiveté would be shocking (how could anyone not have known what was coming with a Biden presidency?), but at least it would open the door for them to have had a change of heart given the last two and a half years. But to me it seems more likely they're just one more example of creatures of DC who do what creatures of DC do, in which case it's pretty doubtful any such change of heart's taken place.

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Anne Sherman's avatar

I'm sure Roberts convinced them that the Court's "intervention" in the 2000 election was the first step in the Left's attempt to delegitimize the Court, and that to take the Texas v. Pennsylvania case would only give the Left more fodder in its drive to pack the Court. The next time we have a Republican president with solid majorities in both houses of Congress (possibly a pipe dream), it would behoove us to begin the process to amend the Constitution to add an amendment, stating that the Court size shall be limited to 9 justices.

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Mark Wauck's avatar

I can imagine Roberts thinking that removing Trump would somehow restore "normality" to American politics and government. Being a DC denizen for so long he should have known better, but people are blind, delude themselves.

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Cosmo T Kat's avatar

Charities of this type are simply money laundering wrapped in the guise of the greater good scam. Who creates these non-profits using the term charity? The people who know how to work the bureaucracy. They generally fund politics and activists who otherwise could never earn a living.

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