For anyone interested in a raw depiction of the Katyn massacre I suggest the movie - Katyn. As raw as Saving Private Ryan if not more so. A depiction of brutally efficient, evil, industrial slaughter. Gruesome but something people should watch. It depicts government at its most evil. YouTube has several hard to watch clips.
Even reading about it is difficult. It does help explain what's going on in Poland. And because of the denials of the truth by the Soviets, Poles in post war Poland were never able to officially mourn for the true events--it was officially blamed on the Germans. On the flip side, Russians have been reluctant to come to terms with the truth of what they did because of the narrative of the Great Patriotic War. Putin was leading Russia to that reckoning and in the wake of the Smoleńsk tragedy he had the Polish film Katyń aired on Russian TV.
I have seen Youtube videos about this crash. If memory serves, a high-ranking officer on board pressured the flight crew to land despite terrible weather. A crash was inevitable.
It was Lech Kaczyński himself. He had a history of telling flight crews how to fly the planes. He did the same thing on a flight to Georgia in 2008. He seems to have thought being president gave him authority over the pilot.
Wow, I never heard of this event. The idea it may have so profoundly affected the course of history is something to think about. Thanks for calling attention to it.
"I have no proof and never really looked into any of the theories but I believe ..."
That's not exactly encouragement for anyone to read any further.
"Russians have been an enemy of Poland for a thousand years"
That's a gross exaggeration, which is to say, it's not true. The wars between Poland and Muscovy didn't begin until about 1450--so call it 600 years ago to round it off. And that was only Poland in aid of Lithuania, which had expanded far to the east beyond any ethnic Lithuanian lands. The Russian view would be that Poland has been an enemy of Russia for just as long--always seeking to expand eastward into Eastern Slav lands. It's simply not true that Poland has been fighting "wars for survival of a nation" for all that time. Poland was only truly on the defensive from the middle 17th century on, and much of Poland's decline was due to internal problems (Cossacks, unruly magnates, dysfunctional government) and wars with Sweden rather than Russian aggression. The true downfall of Poland to Russia didn't begin until the Silent Sejm in 1717, and was only completed with the help of Prussia and Austria. So much for your 1000 years.
Anyway, why not go for another 600 years? Or a thousand, if you prefer? What kind of a policy is that?
Orban comments here on how US (Reich) is transferring military assets east from Germany into Poland and Ukraine and implications for Europe
https://twitter.com/HungaryBased/status/1651971665973108740
Ah, thanks for the reminder. I saw that yesterday but it slipped my mind.
Orban is the closest thing to an actual statesman in then entire collective West.
For anyone interested in a raw depiction of the Katyn massacre I suggest the movie - Katyn. As raw as Saving Private Ryan if not more so. A depiction of brutally efficient, evil, industrial slaughter. Gruesome but something people should watch. It depicts government at its most evil. YouTube has several hard to watch clips.
Even reading about it is difficult. It does help explain what's going on in Poland. And because of the denials of the truth by the Soviets, Poles in post war Poland were never able to officially mourn for the true events--it was officially blamed on the Germans. On the flip side, Russians have been reluctant to come to terms with the truth of what they did because of the narrative of the Great Patriotic War. Putin was leading Russia to that reckoning and in the wake of the Smoleńsk tragedy he had the Polish film Katyń aired on Russian TV.
assume someone's watching and listening.
How The FBI Helps Ukrainian Intelligence Hunt ‘Disinformation’ On Social Media
https://www.leefang.com/p/how-the-fbi-helps-ukrainian-intelligence?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1239256&post_id=117930954&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
Very disturbing. Thanks.
What has happened in such a short time is incredible. The FBI has turned into Stasi. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/12/new_twitter_files_drop_the_fbi_was_a_liaison_for_all_sorts_of_government_agencies.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
I have seen Youtube videos about this crash. If memory serves, a high-ranking officer on board pressured the flight crew to land despite terrible weather. A crash was inevitable.
It was Lech Kaczyński himself. He had a history of telling flight crews how to fly the planes. He did the same thing on a flight to Georgia in 2008. He seems to have thought being president gave him authority over the pilot.
Wow, I never heard of this event. The idea it may have so profoundly affected the course of history is something to think about. Thanks for calling attention to it.
It's really nuts. I assume this is being done for political reasons, with the elections coming up in November.
Polish voters need to act. This is an out of control government that's not thinking rationally.
As I was saying.
"I have no proof and never really looked into any of the theories but I believe ..."
That's not exactly encouragement for anyone to read any further.
"Russians have been an enemy of Poland for a thousand years"
That's a gross exaggeration, which is to say, it's not true. The wars between Poland and Muscovy didn't begin until about 1450--so call it 600 years ago to round it off. And that was only Poland in aid of Lithuania, which had expanded far to the east beyond any ethnic Lithuanian lands. The Russian view would be that Poland has been an enemy of Russia for just as long--always seeking to expand eastward into Eastern Slav lands. It's simply not true that Poland has been fighting "wars for survival of a nation" for all that time. Poland was only truly on the defensive from the middle 17th century on, and much of Poland's decline was due to internal problems (Cossacks, unruly magnates, dysfunctional government) and wars with Sweden rather than Russian aggression. The true downfall of Poland to Russia didn't begin until the Silent Sejm in 1717, and was only completed with the help of Prussia and Austria. So much for your 1000 years.
Anyway, why not go for another 600 years? Or a thousand, if you prefer? What kind of a policy is that?
Yes, I've personally seen that hatred.
I was thinking the same thing.