I’ve had occasion in the past to praise the work of Wire Points, a site that focuses on Illinois politics and public policy issues. Part of the site is a daily update on the Covid situation in the state—we all know how difficult it is to pry Covid stats free from the government data guardians, and Wire Points is doing the Lord’s work for IL in that regard.
However, what I want to do here is briefly excerpt some of the comments that appeared at the site today:
Just the other day I was remarking to my wife to this effect:
I’d really like to know what the situation is regarding the health status of people with these “breakthrough” cases. We know that the unvaxxed who die from or with Covid are overwhelmingly suffering from multiple life threatening co-morbidities. If that had changed, if Covid were now somehow affecting healthier individuals, I’m sure we’d be hearing about that—but we’re not. Therefore, I assume the situation with regard to the unvaxxed remains about the same.
But with these breakthrough cases, we keep hearing about “unexpected deaths” of youngish, healthy vaxxed unfortunates. I’m not the only one getting that impression:
Granted, that tends to be anecdotal, but we’re not hearing any solid data. Instead we get anecdotal stuff from people who know better—which is suspicious. What’s the deal with “breakthrough” cases? Are most of these people who have serious co-morbidities? Or what?
So that’s what’s been on my mind, among other things. The comments at Wire Points today, while of course anecdotal, point toward real data that should be alarming to anyone concerned about these matters. This morning I suggested that I sensed some panic among the rulers. Well, read on … You’ll see that comment #2 directly addresses my remarks to my wife. Here’s the spoiler version: In IL—and there’s no reason to believe the situation is any different anywhere else—breakthrough cases are nearly half of all cases, and half of breakthrough deaths have no co-morbidities. Yikes!
1. Not the Senator's Son
I have a close friend, a retired police officer who’s wife left nursing last year and was 40 years in the field of heart work. She will not take this gene therapy drug.
Their son is a GP doctor at a major Illinois hospital. He is refusing it.
The doc said they are finding very unusual things in the hearts and blood of those who were treated with this therapy.
I wonder why docs and nurses are not lining the streets to speak truth.
We need them to tell the truth.
2. Rfb321
Reply to Not the Senator's Son
Add to that. The vaccine is underperforming expectations. By a lot. Been to theIDPH [IL Dept. of Public Health] breakthrough site this week? No? okay, last week 43% of deaths were fully vaccinated. 50% of those had cobmorbidities Thus, 50% did not. That means that 21.5% of last weeks deaths were otherwise healthy vaccinated folks. THAT was not on the brochure! The spin is “Yeah but those were probably the earlier vaxed (like six or more months ago), and unfortunately, the efficiency is wearing off, so boost up. Twice a year
3. Freddy
Here is a detailed look from VAERS database. Lot to digest.
[Comment: VAERS is currently showing over 18K deaths]
4. rfb321
Reply to Freddy
This summary report is an extraction from the CDC’s VEARS data base. I went thru the steps listed on the website that shows you how to go to the actual CDC VAERS report and verify the accuracy of the summary. It is all correct. I then did some more research on the CDC VAERS data base. There are some inaccuracies in the daily data collection and the way it is submitted. Okay fine. I’ll agree to that. But how far off is it? Even at 50%, it pretty shocking data. But, if this was only 50% correct, why would the CDC go to all the expense and effort to create and maintain VAERS? They would not. So, then shall we say it is 75% accurate? Still, would the CDC maintain and publish data for public consumption that is 25% bad? i Again no. What am I missing?
5. Paul
Reply to rfb321
You are not missing anything. If anything the data is understated. It takes about an hour for a hospital to draft and submit a VAERS report and a lot of them are not doing it.
Yes, scary but not at all surprising. There is a relative flood of posts and analysis out there for anyone who wants to see that underscores the mortal threat of these jabs. There is certainly room for honest people to debate about the motives-- the "why are TPTB pushing these fatal jabs?"-- but there can be no debate now that these jabs are lethal and must be stopped immediately. Highly recommend Mike Moore's Thomas Paine Podcast (although he swears a blue streak, unfortunately). He's former FBI, DEA, intel, etc and brings alot of perspective of how the Crime Syndicate thinks.
My question now is for my foolish but beloved family members who got the jab. Specifically, how much damage does this jab do to the immune system? Assuming they don't get any boosters, can the proven treatments like ivermectin et al work for these immunocompromised people? It's clear that if we love our family we will do whatever possible to keep them OUT of the hospitals which have become kill zones for profit. The truly scary thought is that the jabbed may not have a functioning immune system and be very susceptible to the CCP flu and many, other ailments. Lord save us.
The data we actually need is a breakdown of deaths by vaccination status and age. That data alone would clarify all of this. If you just look at the IL data, 95% of people over the age of 65 have had at least one dose of vaccine, and the people in that age bracket who haven't had 1 dose or 2 doses probably are people who can't tolerate any kind of vaccine, or who are in hospice care.
If the vaccines are an issue COVID mortality, you will see COVID deaths alone skew younger. And all cause deaths may go up significantly compared to base even if COVID isn't diagnosed. I am watching the CDC reported all cause deaths right now- those have been about 30- 40% above normal since mid August. When I back out the COVID deaths, I find about 4 to 5 thousand excess deaths in week after week in that period of time. It would be good to know the ages of those 4-5 thousand excess non-COVID deaths and their vaccination status. This is information that the government should have, but they curiously never show any of it.
Yes, scary but not at all surprising. There is a relative flood of posts and analysis out there for anyone who wants to see that underscores the mortal threat of these jabs. There is certainly room for honest people to debate about the motives-- the "why are TPTB pushing these fatal jabs?"-- but there can be no debate now that these jabs are lethal and must be stopped immediately. Highly recommend Mike Moore's Thomas Paine Podcast (although he swears a blue streak, unfortunately). He's former FBI, DEA, intel, etc and brings alot of perspective of how the Crime Syndicate thinks.
My question now is for my foolish but beloved family members who got the jab. Specifically, how much damage does this jab do to the immune system? Assuming they don't get any boosters, can the proven treatments like ivermectin et al work for these immunocompromised people? It's clear that if we love our family we will do whatever possible to keep them OUT of the hospitals which have become kill zones for profit. The truly scary thought is that the jabbed may not have a functioning immune system and be very susceptible to the CCP flu and many, other ailments. Lord save us.
The data we actually need is a breakdown of deaths by vaccination status and age. That data alone would clarify all of this. If you just look at the IL data, 95% of people over the age of 65 have had at least one dose of vaccine, and the people in that age bracket who haven't had 1 dose or 2 doses probably are people who can't tolerate any kind of vaccine, or who are in hospice care.
If the vaccines are an issue COVID mortality, you will see COVID deaths alone skew younger. And all cause deaths may go up significantly compared to base even if COVID isn't diagnosed. I am watching the CDC reported all cause deaths right now- those have been about 30- 40% above normal since mid August. When I back out the COVID deaths, I find about 4 to 5 thousand excess deaths in week after week in that period of time. It would be good to know the ages of those 4-5 thousand excess non-COVID deaths and their vaccination status. This is information that the government should have, but they curiously never show any of it.