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Could the following be concentrating minds on the need for a deal asap. Late afternoon yesterday, a post in our group of Iranian spokesman saying some sort of incursion resulted in capture and injuries. The claim was posted by someone called Orlando on x.com

https://x.com/Orlando71156528/status/2084833868473864510?s=20

AI? I can’t tell unless very obvious but this morning this with Trita Parsi

https://teeashby.substack.com/p/trista-parsi-100-american-prisoners

Mark Wauck's avatar

Mario Nawfal summarizes Brandon Weichert's view:

 Trump may sign the Hormuz deal, but only because he needs a ceasefire more than he can afford to admit. Reports suggest Iran and Oman are close to finalising a new shipping arrangement through the Strait.

According to geopolitical analyst Brandon Weichert, it's a great deal for Iran, and a terrible one for Trump. And Trump will probably agree to it because he may no longer have a better option.

Brandon believes the White House is running into three realities at the same time.

- America has burned through an enormous number of precision missiles,

- energy markets remain vulnerable every time Hormuz is threatened, and

- the midterms are getting closer.

That combination, he argues, leaves Trump needing an off-ramp... fast.

The emerging agreement reportedly gives Tehran oversight of shipping, and could even allow it to charge vessels for passage.

If that happens, Brandon argues it won't just be another diplomatic compromise; it will signal something much bigger:

The end of the maritime order the U.S built after World War II.

Mark Wauck's avatar

The Hormuz Letter @HormuzLetter

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BREAKING: Iran is demanding a fee of 7% on all commercial ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz, with Chinese and Russian vessels exempt from the fee, while Oman is discussing smaller fees of around 3% and the US wants no fees at all, per Reuters and an Iranian source.

A senior Iranian official says the proposed deal gives Iran control over ships entering the Gulf through the Strait of Hormuz, and is "one of the biggest concessions yet to Iran," meaning "the war launched by the United States and Israel in February had resulted in a major shift in the balance of regional power in Tehran's favour."

Another Iranian source however cautions that "the devil is in the details" and that "a single tweet from Trump could cause the whole thing to collapse."

Mark Wauck's avatar

More Mac:

Wake up. Smell the coffee. Attacking Iran made no sense. We had no chance of subduing that country exclusively with air and missile power. Our sanctions failed. Our diplomacy, our diplomatic attempts to undermine, isolate Iran have failed. And we have created an alliance between Russia, Iran and China. That alliance was identified by none other than Zbigniew Brzezinski back in the mid 90s. And he said that if that should emerge, that should arise, our position on the Eurasian continent was at serious risk. In other words, we can't prevail against that. And that's what's happened.

That's why this war, which began on behalf of Israel to make sure that Israel was safe again and would be more than safe--would be the dominant power in the region, and that their interests and the interests of their friends in the United States would be well served in the financial markets. All of that has now had a terrible impact on us strategically because, in addition to identifying us as a kind of a paper tiger after all this time, because we have the wrong instruments for the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time. We have now seen this alliance emerge and this alliance is backed by hundreds of other states and organizations around the globe. All of whom are sick to death of us, our bullying through the financial system, through the IMF to the World Bank, and want to see an end to this undesirable American financial and military hijgemony.

dissonant1's avatar

Absolutely great statement.

Mark Wauck's avatar

Mac's feeling pretty cynical:

Real quick, everybody's worried about this midterms except Donald Trump. And why is Donald Trump not worried? Because of the enormous money behind him. You know, Larry Wilkerson sent me an email this morning talk talking to me about the 140 150 million in one particular pot designed to repeat the kind of action that was taken against Thomas Massie in Congress. Another pot of money of 750 million was designed to strengthen Israel's grip or the grip of the Israeli lobby and their billionaires on the Congress and legislation and the legislative process. you know this President Trump knows this and with that kind of money behind him, he can protect himself against any attempt to remove him. And at this point, I think that's his only concern that there would be an attempt to remove him from office after the midterms.

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Mark, your comment draws attention to your last paragraph in your post--about. the MI primary. Here is what DropSiteNews had to say on Wednesday: "Abdul El-Sayed beat Rep. Haley Stevens in Tuesday’s Michigan Democratic Senate primary, overcoming over $60 million in outside funding, mostly from pro-Israel groups" 

Mark Wauck's avatar

This is becoming a regular theme for Mac. He came back to it today.

aDoozy's avatar

He has laid out his delusion right before our eyes...boldly, clearly.

Come to think of it, he has done this before...when he showed us all an image of him as a Christ-like figure.

Mark Wauck's avatar

An Iranian POV:

Patarames @Pataramesh

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Escalation dominance is firmly with Iran

Trump can restart war again for 2-3 weeks

- Investing remaining JASSM & Tomahawks

- Allowing riskier air raids into Iran, projecting more & heavier firepower

- Sacrificing remaining PAC-3/THAAD/SM-3(-6) to create a shield for a short high-intensity war

 But then Iran won't stop anymore without be given surrender-scale concessions by the U.S.

... and if civilian infrastructure is targeted, the entire region will be devastated for many years to come... and world economy with it

Carl R Williams's avatar

Love the dumpster fire picture!

I believe Danny Davis will be right because Trump's signature on any deal is as bad as his lying word. There is no way Trump can keep from looking like a loser except in the minds of the shoe-size IQ crowd. IMO Joe Kent is also correct is his assessment that Americans want this over and don't care if we just walk away.

aDoozy's avatar

I agree with you, Carl. And you made me chuckle with "the shoe-size IQ crowd". Thanks!

Steghorn21's avatar

Any deal will have to solve what I call the "Zionist override dilemma". As things stand now, the Israelis will literally blow up any deal before the ink is dry. The Iranians need to put so much pressure on Trump that even he - weak coward that he is - has no choice but to tell his Zionist handlers to go to hell. I don't think we've reached that point yet. Trump still has a tiny bit of wiggle room left to agree to a new deal and then start his usual trick of welching on it. Iran needs to keep up the preemptive, incremental attacks on key US and Israeli military targets until Trump cracks.

Carl R Williams's avatar

That is a sound strategy. Just chip away at that "Masters of the Universe" fantasy in Trump's head.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

I've never seen Trump laughing or playing with a child or dog

Carl R Williams's avatar

Will Rogers used say, "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go."

Carl R Williams's avatar

Psychopaths usually torture and kill those things.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

Western "leaders" are the kind of people whose parents never let them have a pet

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

But they did let them have slaves or what we call domestic servents.

Carl R Williams's avatar

Reminds me of Biden's white house dog that kept wanting to bite him.

Steghorn21's avatar

I hope that dog had a rabies shot.

Steghorn21's avatar

He probably has a laugh at the MAGA fools with Howie Lutnick after a hard days' grifting.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

The US empire is a ghost that doesn't know it's dead

Bronek (ben) Chapinski's avatar

While this is going on

People are leaving Israel in droves. We checked Google, but they often stray from reality. According to them, 49,000 left one year; the next, 50,000. Stats from Israelis are worthless. For example, they stopped citizens from taking fotos of war destruction in Tel Aviv. Months ago a guy on YouTube mentioned "2 million." That might seem far-fetched. Father Time will eventual give a glance at reality. In the meantime the MSM's "best of all people" will be...

https://youtu.be/HSWj9F6ot34

Consider reading the comments. Zs saying that once they leave they’ll discover anti-Semitism in the world. Again, it's the centuries old "Us-Against-Them" syndrome. For examples, see below -

A) Freedom fighter (American Z)

October 7 left many people with questions. Where was the army, police and other armed forces when they were needed? Why were they all told to stand down for 6 hours instead of rushing in to help?

Stop blaming sects of Jews and look squarely into the government's handling of recent events. The lack of security makes those who wanted to live here simply pick up and leave. As Americans who moved to Israel , my family and friends feel less safe since October 7 and many are returning. Add to that the extremely high costs of living and extremely high taxes.

B) Diane

They can always come back to ISRAEL when they realize the alarming antisemitism in the West.

C) Yoni-

Wait...what??? With the antisemitism outside of Israel rising, and these people are leaving??? Many have been making aliya, and now you have some leaving...?? What's really going on? This doesn't make sense, though you can't believe everything you hear on the news.

D) Carman -

Are they going to Patagonia in Argentina?

Germany becomes destination of choice for Jews leaving Israel -

https://youtu.be/BEvNKHhsIRY?si=bL0Drdv4q-LRBuh3

Commentary

A) SRTB -

Still laughing from the irony of the video title

B) BenAkkord -

These people are so privileged. They collect passports and citizenships like other people collect stamps.

C) Palatine -

And we barely hear any report from western media about Israelis permanently leaving Israel...

D) PotcastCentral -

Good, people deserve to feel safe.

Steghorn21's avatar

Heard that too, Ben. And the people who are leaving are the smart and sane ones. In a few years, it will just be the crazies left. Israel is done.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

discovering antisemitism in the world...........good grief what a bunch of lies. Ask them why that is so, they avoid answering unless of course it's racism at work or heaven forbid it's just people who are envious and lash out because they hate Jews. Never, never do they look inwardly to see the part they play, they shift blame and call gentiles animals.

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They call us animals and then cry about the reaction…’ooooh the antisemitism boo hoo’.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

speaking of crying. I am reminded of a Polish proverb that says "The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you."

Steghorn21's avatar

The greatest driver of anti-semitism right now is Netanyahu and his satanic followers. Unfortunately, it's guilt by association.

Cosmo T Kat's avatar

What do "they" say, oh yeah, actions have consequences! Yes, they are driving the negativity towards Israel and Zionism in general.

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Yes!

That is true. The predominance of Russian and Central European Jewry has been often referred to as remnants Khazarian Empire, but Mark cautions us to be careful as the evidence is sometimes unclear. But you are right these people were considered vicious and the main converts to Judaism were their nobles.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

it's like a global sewage spill

Carl R Williams's avatar

They all booked passage on the Exxon Valdez.

Clyde Griffith's avatar

"Iran will have the full backing of Russia and China in this, because Iran’s strategy suits their purposes as well."

Many in the 'alt media' report this.

But how do we know it is real?

OTOH, yesterday John Helmer w/ Nima Alkhorshid reported that Ukraine struck a Turkish ship.

Doug MacGregor has averred that Turkey will, eventually, join with the Iran axis in opposition to Israel. Attacking a Turkish ship may hasten that outcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj6FUDlYmZI

Steghorn21's avatar

I'll be more inclined to believe Turkey will join in when they stop sending oil illicitly to Israel via Azerbaijan and kick the US out of Incirlik.

dissonant1's avatar

Once a treacherous weasel always a treacherous weasel. "In international relations, there are no permanent friends or permanent enemies, only permanent interests."

The Elder of Vicksburg's avatar

You know… when the likes of Levin, Loomer, Shapiro et al commence the turbo-kvetching

About this latest offense against Israel’s right to exist and so on — well, I can’t see that actually, you know, helping the whole Eretz Israel program, at least from the perspective of public opinion. Other than the non-Jewish Zionists who while calling themselves Christian are not, from a technical point of view.

Much has been revealed that cannot be unrevealed. I’m sure Bibi will make a lot of new friends in prison. Maybe he’ll be the boss jock of his cell block.

But could it be that the Zionist captivity of the US is finally finally FINALLY ending. And speaking as someone with a Russian significant other I’m a bit weary of that whole mess too. not to mention the Republican Party, especially the likes of Cotton and Cruz and Fetterman. Maybe they can go to prison with Bibi and continue providing the same services. At any rate the GOP has to go (which is not an endorsement of the miserable Ds)

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Mr Elder, did you know that US media Saint Bibi never got over 30% of the vote in Z elections? Their political world is one of turmoil. If this keeps up, lots of Zs will have to leave Israel and find new employment in the pentagon, CIA and on Capitol Hill. Don't bet the farm on Netanyahu being in a bird case. He's got comrades in Amdom and The 'Don' in his pocket.

The Elder of Vicksburg's avatar

I know. I would bet my next paycheck he beats the rap and is granted an endowed chair and professorship at Harvard. And alas I am not kidding either.

Steghorn21's avatar

Yep. Professor of Humanities is my guess.

Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

Great solution proposed, Mr. Elder! But Bibi can barely hold his water, so I can't fathom him as "boss jock". On the other hand, Cruz in the cell block could teach big betting to the ejected Prime Minister via Texas Hold'em, all the while Tom "WEF Young Leaders' fellow" Cotton could teach Bibi better ways of snookering others by playing the corner angles of lawfulness as his home state former Governor Bill Clinton does/did so well.

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Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

My mind doesn't go there at all. I don't even know which aisle in the drug store or supermarket where these men would shop for such under garment aids.

Steghorn21's avatar

"sharing a $5000 Sex doll fashioned in the image of "Bath-House" Bessant??" For God's sake man, I'm about to eat!

Kevin Slattery's avatar

It seems the entire political system in the U.S. is nothing more than theater to entertain the masses. I guess we better “vote harder”🤦‍♂️

The amount of people completely propagandize by state schooling and the media is alarming!

The Elder of Vicksburg's avatar

I could not have said it better me self.

I am a firm believer in the time tested principles of Irish Democracy and apply them in everyday life whenever and wherever possible.

Manul's avatar

A major change in character is often preceded by brokenness which generates repentance and humility. I see no evidence that Trump has been broken. He is turning more vile and nasty and telling more lies and blaming others for his failures.

He will not be able to agree to a deal. He can neither withdraw nor fully engage. It’s a sight to behold. I have very little sympathy unless he repents. This is the same man who botched the Epstein files release and destroyed those who opposed him. He chaotically jammed tariffs down everyone’s throats, threatened Greenland and Cuba and invaded Venezuela. And now with Iran he has entered a fight he can’t win.

You reap what you sow - eventually. And many of those not involved suffer too.

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Manul, you certainly know the score. We think of our boys being unnecessarily put in harms way. We reflect of his pathological lying. We see his pilfering billions of dollars. There's common knowledge oscillating around the topic of being an Israeli-Firster. Sadness hits when watching films on his indiscriminating bombing and (2) the types of crime in his warfare. The sea of facts relating to complicity seen from video horrors in Gaza is beyond description. The anti-American congress being a tool of the nemesis reminds one of the Polish parliament just before the partitions. The continuing conflict -while noting the hopelessness- reminds one of the remaining MAGA. They're like the AH followers making excuses for continuing the unwinnable war, after the failed 4/1944 assassination attempt. With nearly the entire government apparatus against the American dream, principles and citizenry, will the remaining MAGA's "greatest Prez of all time" slip his way into a 2028 term? After all, money talks... thanks for your thoughts, Mr. Manual.

Marvin Gardens2's avatar

forget the global depression - we have a boomer's fragile male ego to consider here

great post, btw

Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

God bless you, Manul, for what you've written. Trump has not even behaved or spoken in any way that signals to a viewer that he is personally remorseful for the multitude of injustices he has inflicted upon others.

aDoozy's avatar

Trump has not accepted responsibility, nor apologized, for targeting and killing over 160 schoolgirls and their teachers Feb 2026. He is responsible for the 2,000-lb. bomb that was dropped on residences in Iran--that killed a family of 3 and 2 other children. He will never admit guilt.

This is the misery caused by unrepentant Donald Trump:

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/minab-iran-elementary-school-airstrike-cemetery-families?r=2vzf0g&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

This is haunting me, aDoozy, thank you for sharing the stories of these parents. One mother recites prayers at her daughter's grave in the sequence that she recited with her daughter, before our country's indifference to the dignity of life bombed away their mother-and-child routine of saying prayers before bedtime. Somebody please put this Drop Site News testimonial in front of POTUS DJT's face and read it to him.

aDoozy's avatar

Remember how Trump 1.0 would walk the aftermath of a tornado, and of a riot in Kenosha, WI? Seems to me he should walk the sites of destroyed schools in Iran, the rubble-lined streets in Lebanon, and the demolished hospitals in Gaza...and the cemeteries in all 3 countries.

And yes, things have to be read to him. But even then he becomes bored quickly, and has a short attention span.

Max Blumenthal pointed this out during his interview with Judge Nap earlier today, Thursday. Somewhere along Trump's road of life he took Bible lessons. The teacher had to color code passages of Scripture in order for him to focus longer.

Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

So, how can this man tout his own brilliance by trusting 'n acting on his gut instinct when he can't pay attention to anything for a sufficient time to learn about "that thing"---

aDoozy's avatar

Talk about living in the moment!

But he is like an elephant if someone crosses him or disobeys~he never forgets those things.

Steghorn21's avatar

And let's be honest: he's always been like that and we chose not to notice. Culpabili sumus!

nano storm's avatar

I don't know that Trump can fathom true (not the feigned variety we see in politics) scorn or actually being shunned. His circle of complicit family and fellow grifters crowd out all but boot licking sycophants and hired help. How would such a man get the human signals that he's not just out of line but far off track? The only thing representative about our government at this point is how pathetic and hypocritical we've allowed it to become. Trump will only realize the vacuity of his leadership when he is forced to turn and see there is absolutely no one behind him.

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And that is happening, slowly slowly, by a lot of citizens noticing what another citizen, plus, writers who are analyzing the vacuum of leadership in the U.S. Gov't., plus, podcasters' observations on US chaos impact across the globe....Col. Wilkerson told Glenn Diesen yesterday that he is saddened that the American public acts quiescent instead of banding together with insistent demand that the corruption and poor decisions be corrected right now, not waiting for election season rolly-polly opportunities for opposition.

https://glenndiesen.substack.com/p/lawrence-wilkerson-trump-sacrifices

Joanne C. Wasserman's avatar

A very fine article, Cosmo, thank you for alerting me to it. I don't know what definition of "shrew" the author goes by (didn't go to his/her substack), but I remember TV's rendering of Shakespeare's The Taming of the Shrew, with the magnificent wildebeestes Richard Burton and wife, Elizabeth Taylor. Great performance of their real married life, I think. Anyway....thanks for sharing the thoughtful commentary.

aDoozy's avatar

I saw that TV performance, too, Joanne! Elizabeth Taylor played a marvelous shrew.