Well!
Doug Macgregor had a lot to say the other day to Stephen Gardner on Youtube. You can find it all here: Douglas Macgregor - The Threat of Russia. I started out transcribing, and I’ll paste the first part in below. This appears to be just a portion (20 minutes) of a longer interview. It begins with the question: When will the West wise up that this war on Russia is a complete disaster—for the West! Here’s that part:
Stephen Gardner: The PM of Hungary, Victor Orban, has said that NATO should be pushing for peace. Many top NATO nations have balked at his comments. Do you think it's because these NATO leaders believe that going for peace would be seen as weakness or, worse, as a loss? What is the reason to keep pushing at this point?
DM: I think the leadership in Paris, Berlin, and London--as examples--is at least as remote from reality as the Biden administration is. This is your Globalist elite. The people that believe in a world that doesn't exist. They think they're fighting Russia because Russia is a nationalist state. They [Russia] have a national identify, a national language, a national culture--ergo, we have to destroy it [Russia as sovereign state with a national character]. Remember, these are the people who have been inviting millions from the Middle East and Africa into Europe. They have been welcoming every single danger to their society as a returning [sic?] faith, as something good. In other words, they want to do to Russia what they've already done to Europe, which is severely weaken the place.
I believe Macgregor is correct regarding the motivation of at least many of the people who are pushing this war on Russia and want to see Russia destroyed. As a matter of history, the West is the product of Christian faith in its Latin form and two thousand years of Christian influence—diminishing over time, it’s true—in the societal institutions of the collective West. I usually focus on the breakdown of Christian philosophy in the late Middle Ages that led to the currents of thought that led to the breakup of the unity of Western Christian civilization. Ideological forces arose from that tragedy that have become, over centuries, societally dominant throughout the West. Their goal is the eradication
eradicate: [verb] to do away with as completely as if by pulling up by the roots
Eradication definition, the complete removal, destruction, or erasure of something
of every vestige of Christian influence from Western life. They think this can be done while somehow avoiding the collapse of the societies that remain based on Christian concepts—whether the populations understand that or consciously share the beliefs that have underpinned our social and governing institutions up till now. For these people, the war on Russia is in the nature of a crusade or jihad—because their ideology is in the nature of a anti-spiritual obsession. It takes various forms—neo-Malthusian, eugenic, materialist utopianism of various sorts, Satanism, etc.
Part of that crusade or jihad is the eradication of the American middle class, which they see as the last remaining repository of more or less conscious Christian values. This is a major force behind the idea of opening our borders. Macgregor, later in the video, sees the open border ideology as motivated to a great extent by greed—cheap labor, etc. However, one acecdote puts the lie to that and exposes the truth that there’s more to it than that. There was a news item just the other day—I believe from New Jersey, but I’m sure it’s going almost everywhere. Parents with children in government schools were up in arms over the fact that illegal migrant kids were being admitted to schools without proof of vaccination. Think about that. The same government authorities that shut down those schools over a public health hoax for over a year, who demanded mandatory vaccination, masking, distancing, etc. with no scientific basis to back up any of it—those same authorities are now admitting all comers from only God knows where, possibly carrying God only knows what diseases. How do you figure that? It’s not about public health. It’s not because they’ve become woke to the hoax that was previously perpetrated. They may not have a conscious agenda—but they’re following the directives of people who do have an agenda. That agenda is the crushing of middle class life in America because it’s seen as the root of evil. The place where Christian faith is still harbored. At the same time, of course, they’re forcing the mass indoctrination of young children in wild immorality that transgresses—yes, I’ll say it—all norms of traditional Christian morality.
Look at the economic policies--catastrophic! The Germans just shut down their last nuclear power plant. Well, no matter how much you don't like nuclear power, before you shut all your plants down you should have some alternative that works. No! They're shutting everything down and the alternatives *don't* work! If you think you're gonna survive on wind turbines, you've lost your mind! And the life blood of all civilizations and successful scientific-industrial development is *cheap energy.* Ya gotta have it! They've essentially robbed themselves of decades of positive growth and impoverished themselves.
This is the elite that thinks it's right, and refuses under any circumstances to accept anything else. So they look at what's happening and they say, 'Well, the Russians still haven't moved much further now than they were a few months ago.' In other words, the Russians control about 22-23% of Ukrainian territory. The Russians have never cared about the territory--they care about destroying Ukrainian forces and killing them. They want to demilitarize and "denazify" Ukraine. Well, if the Ukrainians are coming to them, repeatedly, in vast numbers and allowing themselves to be killed, you don't move very much. When that ends, they'll move. Maybe then these people in Western Europe will wake up, but I kinda doubt it. I think they'll have to be thrown out of office. And if the Europeans don't throw them out, they could be the death of Europe. These people are a catastrophe, they're a disaster. Britain is in just as much if not more serious trouble.
So, to answer your question ...
It's an ideological problem. In other words, if you think you're going to extend with force of arms the LGBTQRSW-whatever agenda to Russia, [a country] that refuses to absorb and adopt your "new values" [and] instead says, 'No, we're an Orthodox Christian country, we think there are two genders, men and women, and by the way we don't marry women to women and men to me.' Oh, well, obviously they're committing a terrible sin and they deserve to be *destroyed.* This is a hopeless endeavor. That's not gonna end. In fact, I think the tide of opinion and attitude is actually swinging in Russia's favor in Europe. As more and more people look at the--I don't say catastrophic but certainly fragile--quality of their civilization and culture, Russia is pointing in a different direction and is gonna gain a lot of momentum as a result. I think the Globalists and their Neocon friends--who seem to have all sorts of other personal reasons for hating Russia--are on the losing side.
Again, I agree with Macgregor that this war on Russia is largely driven by ideological loathing and greed—including lust for power—rather than geopolitical strategery or any real fear of Russia. That filters down to the popular level through fear mongering hoaxes about Russian “meddling” and Trump-Putin collusion. The Power Elites who propagate those hoaxes do not fear Russia as a real threat. Well, maybe they’re starting to fear Russia now, a bit, although they’re obsessive poking of the bear suggests they haven’t learned much, as Macgregor maintains. But the war is not to counter a threat. It’s a crusade in one form or another, a coalition of power hungry ideologies that will turn on their own subject populations after subjugating Russia and China.
But again, it has to be demonstrated clearly, unambiguously, for them to admit [that they’ve been wrong about] anything. And even then, they'll probably crawl back under their rocks and wait for the next opportunity.
All empires overreach. We are overreaching.
After that point Macgregor launches into a rant on the state of America today. He covers all sorts of ground—monetary theory, defense spending, government bloat and corruption, you name it. At one point he gets into this—I summarize from memory, but my memory is pretty good:
The Bill of Rights is more important than the parts of the Constitution that set up our governing structures and institutions. Those latter parts of the Constitution have been totally outmoded since at least the end of the Civil War. Just take the example of having 50 states. You end up with the same problems of bloat and corruption at the federal level distributed to 50 states. We’d be far better off to establish five regional governments with reduced government.
Now, it’s possible that at some point America may need such a solution to our internal political and cultural problems. I don’t think we’re there yet. But, if it happens, it will be the result of irreconcilable cultural differences. To propose this as a remedy for government bloat seems to me to be wildly naive and simplistic and ignores the likely ramifications in other directions.
For an example, such a step would, in my view, lead quickly to the next step—the establishment of those regional governments as sovereign and independent nations. The 50 states of our federal system are too weak to take that step—although California liberals are showing a will to go in that direction. But with five regional governments I believe that result would follow inevitably and fairly quickly. The end of that could be that those much smaller and weaker countries—as compared to the current United States—might become prey to foreign, overseas, powers.
I think I want to keep Macgregor far away from the levers of political power. YMMV.
Today, 5/29/2023, the video by McGregor has been deleted by YouTube and is no longer accessible.
The use of the word migrant should be avoided. They're not migrants, they're illegal immigrants