Might be off topic, but Tulsi Gabbard is taking flak from people saying she is misusing the term Treasonous. It is often misused. The only crime named in the Constitution.
However, if Obama was proven to not be a citizen, that would make him a saboteur or maybe a spy. Not sure.
But that would mean everyone else in the conspiracy would be committing treason by working with a foreign adversary to undermine the government of the United States.
While treason might require a connection to a foreign hostile power, sabotage doesn't. I don't know what laws apply generally to sabotage against the U.S. I do know that they charged a number of the Jan 6 protesters with "seditious conspiracy" for interference with a federal election certification. If those charges were legitimately made it certainly seems like acting to defy the results of the 2016 Presidential election would be also. Moreover, conspiracy need not point at only one act but a series over time - quite applicable to the "resistance" to Trump throughout his first term.
The search function in your browser is your friend. Try: "title 18 usc sabotage". The results will tell you exactly what laws apply to "sabotage".
Re J6 and seditious conspiracy I certainly agree that those charges were bullshit--i.e., the actions charged did not rise to the level of a conspiracy to overthrow the government--but I add this caveat: two wrongs don't make a right. The remedy for bullshit prosecutions is not to engage in similar bullshit prosecutions but to go after the prosecutors and possibly the judges. This, of course, is never done. But the caveat stands.
No, yes! And might that “foreign adversary” be Ukraine? The infamous telephone conversation with Zekensky which was used against Trump during one of his impeachments (can’t remember which!); and during the campaign a certain Alexandra Chalupa (something Hillary the cat drug in) and her merry band worked to smear Manafort and anything that moved on the Rep side…
Well-meaning voters, right and left, are being duped into supporting Manchurian Candidates. Its no revelation that aspiring and established polititians misrepresent their true intentions. While I despise AOC for her anti-American and ulta-woke positions on so many cause-dejour issues, I am feeling saddened rather than vindicated to learn how she is betraying her base re genocide. No, she isnt "just that stupid". She's another posterboard, fake stooge planted into our uniparty system.
In January, 1935, Jabotinsky, father of the form of zionism that Bibi practices, arrived travel-weary for a repeat-tour of USA. At the dock, he was asked,
"How can the Jews achieve a true Homeland in the Holy Land?"
Obama's grandmother, Ann Dunham, was a big deal in James Rhiady's Chinese banking cartel in Indonesia. The Lippo Group was under the control of Li Kashing, Commerce Minister of the People's Liberation Army. Obama was born an enemy of America. So any close association with him should be damning. What a network of traitors we have!
And the result of the immigration act of 1965. The Lion of the Senate, Ted Kennedy, who definitely was not his brother, stated emphatically it, the immigration act, would not alter the fundamental character of this country...........sure, not at all so, we get the likes of AOC and people like the Obama's.
heh. All my grandparents and also my Mother were born in Italy.
Palmer Raids targeted "immigrants" including Italians, whose immigrant numbers soared in the 1920s. My Grandfather was initially a "migrant worker" in USA, eventually bringing his family from Italy to join him. During the Raids, he returned his family to Italy, where my mother was born. My Mother, her mother, and my American-born uncles returned to USA in 1933.
Italians were hated; they were perceived as "altering the fundamental character of the USA." For many people, knowledge of Italy-Italians is based on Godfather or the Sopranos.
Alex Krainer engaged in discussion recently with a person whose anti-Catholic anti-Italian bigotry was surpassed only by his devaluation of females, expressed in terms usually reserved for dogs.
Krainer really should be more careful about the company he keeps.
Ann Dunham was Obama's mother and I thought at one time I read that her father was in some way involved in intelligence (don't remember if it was CIA or FBI).
The Big O's mother was Stanley Ann Dunham. She married Barak Obama senior, a British Subject from Kenya, and allegedly had his son, Barak.
If so, then Obama was never eligible to be president, since he would be a British Subject by birth. His Kenyan family all claimed he was born in Kenya.
A Natural born Citizen is born of two citizen parents, on native soil. In the case of citizens traveling abroad having a baby, they can file a Certificate of Live Birth. (COLB) That will make the child a Natural Born Citizen. That didn't and couldn't have happened with O. Stanley was not of the age of majority and could not convey citizenship and Obama sr, was never an American citizen.
Stanley then married Soetero, who moved them to Indonesia, where Barak went to school. The law in Indonesia was that only citizens could go to their schools, so that suggests that O was also a citizen of Indonesia. I doubt he was even ever a US citizen. His college application stated he was a foreign student.
Ann Dunham gave us Tim Turbo Tax Geitner, who was also in the Lippo Group.
The fraudulent birth certificate they released was a horrendous photoshop piece that could have been done better by a seven year old with a box of crayons. But even if he was born in the Oval Office while the Marine Corps Band played Hail To The Chief, he wouldn't be a NBO.
The only possible way he is NBO is if his real father was Frank Marshall Davis, which has often been suggested. Stanley was a notorious slut and a communist.
Edit: Not sure Li Kashing was minister at the time. but all foreign commerce was controlled by the army.
Obama and the Pritzkers--they came from Ukraine with the great Jewish migration out of Russia's Pale of Settlement. The original immigrant made his fortune as a lawyer for the Mafia. The next generation were South Chicago loan sharks. Obama fits right in.
I believe every single politician is manufactured. The ones that slip through will soon enough join the club.
It’s plain to see these people are all actors. They lie to us because it is legal. They scream about fake news, yet they made fake news legal.
This right here is the cause of all our problems. And Trump signed off on it again in the NDAA. Trump loves it because he can propagandize us. They all can. Fake news is legal!
Might be off topic, but Tulsi Gabbard is taking flak from people saying she is misusing the term Treasonous. It is often misused. The only crime named in the Constitution.
However, if Obama was proven to not be a citizen, that would make him a saboteur or maybe a spy. Not sure.
But that would mean everyone else in the conspiracy would be committing treason by working with a foreign adversary to undermine the government of the United States.
While treason might require a connection to a foreign hostile power, sabotage doesn't. I don't know what laws apply generally to sabotage against the U.S. I do know that they charged a number of the Jan 6 protesters with "seditious conspiracy" for interference with a federal election certification. If those charges were legitimately made it certainly seems like acting to defy the results of the 2016 Presidential election would be also. Moreover, conspiracy need not point at only one act but a series over time - quite applicable to the "resistance" to Trump throughout his first term.
The search function in your browser is your friend. Try: "title 18 usc sabotage". The results will tell you exactly what laws apply to "sabotage".
Re J6 and seditious conspiracy I certainly agree that those charges were bullshit--i.e., the actions charged did not rise to the level of a conspiracy to overthrow the government--but I add this caveat: two wrongs don't make a right. The remedy for bullshit prosecutions is not to engage in similar bullshit prosecutions but to go after the prosecutors and possibly the judges. This, of course, is never done. But the caveat stands.
No, yes! And might that “foreign adversary” be Ukraine? The infamous telephone conversation with Zekensky which was used against Trump during one of his impeachments (can’t remember which!); and during the campaign a certain Alexandra Chalupa (something Hillary the cat drug in) and her merry band worked to smear Manafort and anything that moved on the Rep side…
China. O was groomed from childhood to hate America and sent to destroy us. See his grandmother in another post.
The only pol I see as being reasonably genuine is Thomas Massie. And they're desperately trying to get rid of him.
Well-meaning voters, right and left, are being duped into supporting Manchurian Candidates. Its no revelation that aspiring and established polititians misrepresent their true intentions. While I despise AOC for her anti-American and ulta-woke positions on so many cause-dejour issues, I am feeling saddened rather than vindicated to learn how she is betraying her base re genocide. No, she isnt "just that stupid". She's another posterboard, fake stooge planted into our uniparty system.
…an interview w Tucker is in her future!
AOC 2028. The narrative is being written. Buckle up.
Do we deserve anything better?
In January, 1935, Jabotinsky, father of the form of zionism that Bibi practices, arrived travel-weary for a repeat-tour of USA. At the dock, he was asked,
"How can the Jews achieve a true Homeland in the Holy Land?"
"By demanding it," Jabotinsky said quietly." [from JTA, Jan. 1935. see also, https://betarus.org/quotes/ ]
Do USAians "deserve anything better"?
Not if we don't demand it.
How can Americans achieve a true Constitution-based nation consistent with the vision of its founders?
By demanding it.
Obama's grandmother, Ann Dunham, was a big deal in James Rhiady's Chinese banking cartel in Indonesia. The Lippo Group was under the control of Li Kashing, Commerce Minister of the People's Liberation Army. Obama was born an enemy of America. So any close association with him should be damning. What a network of traitors we have!
And the result of the immigration act of 1965. The Lion of the Senate, Ted Kennedy, who definitely was not his brother, stated emphatically it, the immigration act, would not alter the fundamental character of this country...........sure, not at all so, we get the likes of AOC and people like the Obama's.
heh. All my grandparents and also my Mother were born in Italy.
Palmer Raids targeted "immigrants" including Italians, whose immigrant numbers soared in the 1920s. My Grandfather was initially a "migrant worker" in USA, eventually bringing his family from Italy to join him. During the Raids, he returned his family to Italy, where my mother was born. My Mother, her mother, and my American-born uncles returned to USA in 1933.
Italians were hated; they were perceived as "altering the fundamental character of the USA." For many people, knowledge of Italy-Italians is based on Godfather or the Sopranos.
Alex Krainer engaged in discussion recently with a person whose anti-Catholic anti-Italian bigotry was surpassed only by his devaluation of females, expressed in terms usually reserved for dogs.
Krainer really should be more careful about the company he keeps.
Ann Dunham was Obama's mother and I thought at one time I read that her father was in some way involved in intelligence (don't remember if it was CIA or FBI).
The Big O's mother was Stanley Ann Dunham. She married Barak Obama senior, a British Subject from Kenya, and allegedly had his son, Barak.
If so, then Obama was never eligible to be president, since he would be a British Subject by birth. His Kenyan family all claimed he was born in Kenya.
A Natural born Citizen is born of two citizen parents, on native soil. In the case of citizens traveling abroad having a baby, they can file a Certificate of Live Birth. (COLB) That will make the child a Natural Born Citizen. That didn't and couldn't have happened with O. Stanley was not of the age of majority and could not convey citizenship and Obama sr, was never an American citizen.
Stanley then married Soetero, who moved them to Indonesia, where Barak went to school. The law in Indonesia was that only citizens could go to their schools, so that suggests that O was also a citizen of Indonesia. I doubt he was even ever a US citizen. His college application stated he was a foreign student.
Ann Dunham gave us Tim Turbo Tax Geitner, who was also in the Lippo Group.
The fraudulent birth certificate they released was a horrendous photoshop piece that could have been done better by a seven year old with a box of crayons. But even if he was born in the Oval Office while the Marine Corps Band played Hail To The Chief, he wouldn't be a NBO.
The only possible way he is NBO is if his real father was Frank Marshall Davis, which has often been suggested. Stanley was a notorious slut and a communist.
Edit: Not sure Li Kashing was minister at the time. but all foreign commerce was controlled by the army.
Obama and the Pritzkers--they came from Ukraine with the great Jewish migration out of Russia's Pale of Settlement. The original immigrant made his fortune as a lawyer for the Mafia. The next generation were South Chicago loan sharks. Obama fits right in.
I believe every single politician is manufactured. The ones that slip through will soon enough join the club.
It’s plain to see these people are all actors. They lie to us because it is legal. They scream about fake news, yet they made fake news legal.
This right here is the cause of all our problems. And Trump signed off on it again in the NDAA. Trump loves it because he can propagandize us. They all can. Fake news is legal!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act_for_Fiscal_Year_2013#Smith%E2%80%93Mundt_Modernization_Act_of_2012