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Thank you Mark, for another interesting post. I have a few comments about the Sean Foo section you extracted. Now in the interest of full disclosure, my education and work experience isn't in international trade and finance so take what I say with a grain of salt (heck, I could be an alpaca writing in from Patagonia for all anyone knows).

Foo always seems a bit "hair on fire" and I think that his bias is to extrapolating systemic noise into long term trends. I'm not going to try to address every point; he seems to be "all over the place" in the excerpt you've provided.

Let's start with a fundamental truism (and one that our leaders don't want to hear): the uni-polar moment in which the US was the undisputed hegemon (roughly 1990 - 2010) is over. And it's not coming back. We are now in a multi-polar world; maybe the US will be first among equals (US + Russia + China) but the US will never dominate in the ways that it did in the past. The US generally made some truly boneheaded decisions in that 1990-2010 period (e.g. post USSR treatment of Russia, de-industrialization, and more) but that's water under the bridge. The Roman Empire reached it's zenith under Trajan; his successor Hadrian realized that they were over-extended and retrenched. It's only a matter of time before the US needs to pull back.

Foo seems to be focused on the rapid increase in gold/silver/commodities and the "decline" in the dollar. No arguing that gold/silver/commodities have had a huge run in the last 12 months but it's not clear if this is a genuine long-term demand change or just short term speculation. Tough to determine right now. Where I think he is partially correct is in the value of the dollar versus other currencies: that the dollar has declined 10% in the last year is a fact. But Foo then extrapolates this as to the demise of the dollar - apocalypse! End of the world!!! However, the dollar is pretty much the same as it was 10 years ago (look at DXY) or a bit higher (look at Fed's Federal Reserve's Broad Trade-Weighted Dollar Index - DTWEXBGS). Seriously - run a 10 year chart.

What is the alternative to the dollar? In the short to intermediate term - more bilateral trade excluding the dollar is a possibility. Otherwise there isn't one. Don't say gold: all the gold ever mined throughout history is roughly equal to one (1) year of US GDP. China isn't in any rush to have the yuan be the reserve currency. For the foreseeable future, the dollar is the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry (but President's Trump's chaotic approach to governance isn't helping).

I really don't understand the hair on fire commentary on the decline of the dollar in the context of his comments on the Yen and the Won. Both have declined meaningfully vs. the dollar in the past year. Foo speculates that each will sell Treasury bonds to intervene in currency markets which is going to further weaken the dollar. Maybe in the very short term, but freely traded currencies are valued based on long term fundamentals. So they sell some Treasuries and intervene; that doesn't make any change in the long term economic outlook. Maybe some other commentator can help me understand; I just don't get what he's getting at.

I've mentioned this in earlier comments and I'm not going to belabor it but fundamentally the US government doesn't need to borrow money. Period. Stop. But Foo seems to be stuck in a commodity based currency way of thinking. Sure, if you're currency is gold based/backed, then you DO need to borrow to get more. But that hasn't been the case in over 50 years. The "who will loan the US the money" makes no sense with a fiat based currency. Money is either spent into existence by the US Government or loaned into existence by the banking system. And don't forget - the US government's debt is someone else's asset.

Finally, the obsession with lowering interest rates is, in my opinion, the outcome of having real-estate developers and Wall Street traders running the government. For both, the cost of money is THE most important factor in the deals they make. For RE, lower interest rates are always good. And in a financialized economy, cheaper money (which is a cheaper input cost) gooses profits. Notwithstanding top-line growth, the US economy isn't delivering for the vast majority.

Just a few random thoughts. Don't take my comments to wave away many of the issues. I'm not being sanguine: there are enormous problems economically both in the US and globally and there isn't much being done to address them. And again Mark, thanks for these extracts. Helpful to think through the economic questions posed by Foo and others you cite.

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Good post Mark.

You don’t want to be a fiat currency in a world without a hegemonic power and a lack of agreement on rules and a path forward.

Cash is always king…except that the US/West has been built upon borrowing and speculation.

Where will this all end up? How about: an entirely different economy and civilization in the West in the next 30 years.

Trump has at times sounded like Jimmy Carter: you will have to enjoy less (unless you are quite wealthy).

The reaction is going to be: people in the West living differently, as in stop thinking about fantasy lives, particularly the young generations.

Spiritually is making a massive comeback around the world. This is changing how people view themselves and the world.

Also, it will be the rest of the world, including those that we have labeled “enemies” that “invest” in the rebuild of the US market: they have the cash and our market has the most potential upside.

This all means that marketing/fantasy is crashing: thus why some are buying up television/movie assets for really not that much. Hollywood and Madison avenue, and commercial real estate, are losses going forward.

Lastly, there is no such thing as conducting real “politics” in this environment: at least not for the US/West. We don’t have a clue how to do it relative to the rest of the world, so we revert to “power” rather than “moral authority.”

Interesting days…;)

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